Christian DeCamillis
Elite Cafe Member
Well, I had my first lesson from Arnaud last night. Until then I never used or could use any drawing program. I don't know PS nothing.
In less than an hour I can know make perfect scrolls manipulate them reverse them and configure them to different spiral forms as well as pull and stretch them to become oval or whatever I want. He has a system that's easy to understand and he uses short cuts that make it much faster. It's like driving a stick shift , Manual , for my European friends. You just begin to know the keys to push for short cuts that make it fast and easy without having to keep going to the tools etc.. to change things.
I think that the problem here is that many are not understanding what Arnaud is saying. What he is trying to say is being lost in translation. He is not advocating putting down your pencil. It seems that from what I read here that those who are computer literate. Me not being one of them Have already spent several years practicing and drawing and it's no problem. I teach beginners every day and believe me they have a very difficult time drawing. , as did I when I started. It took me at least four years before my designs started to look pleasing and look right.
The problem saying that a pencil is easier and faster is that for some it is for others no way. The other thing is that It doesn't matter what program super computer or anything else you have you still need to understand how nto draw and design the scrolls. No one that I know of disagrees with that.
Again what I don't understand id why so much resistance. Andrew when you drew the logo for FEGA did you do that all with colored pencils or paint? or did you start with a sketch and finish with the computer?
Phil, You use PS Why because it's faster. I bet that wasn't true when you first started using it. You could use images on acetate in several sizes and layer them and move them around the same as you do in PS . Why don't you probably because it's easier to do and faster and the result is better in PS.
I think that a poll to find out whether people would be more interested i n learning the computer drawing would be good. I think you need both Arnaud thinks you need both. I bet that not that many lay out lettering by hand anymore.
Why are most engravers today using power assist because it's faster to learn and the results are better. But there are those out there that that's not true for Philippe Griffne for example engraves so fast and so well that a power assist would slow him down,m but it took him 20 years to achieve that level.
Today people are starting to learn engraving at 40 ,50, even 60 years of age and don't have or want to spend the next four or five years learning to only draw by hand.
This is and will be a never ending discussion. It's the same as the chain saw vs. the Hand saw. The horse vs. the tractor. etc...
I hear people say every day I would like to learn to do that engraving but I can't draw. I say you can and must if you want to. SO again drawing is not out never will be. but combine that with technology that is available today and the results will speak for themselves and already have.
Thanks
In less than an hour I can know make perfect scrolls manipulate them reverse them and configure them to different spiral forms as well as pull and stretch them to become oval or whatever I want. He has a system that's easy to understand and he uses short cuts that make it much faster. It's like driving a stick shift , Manual , for my European friends. You just begin to know the keys to push for short cuts that make it fast and easy without having to keep going to the tools etc.. to change things.
I think that the problem here is that many are not understanding what Arnaud is saying. What he is trying to say is being lost in translation. He is not advocating putting down your pencil. It seems that from what I read here that those who are computer literate. Me not being one of them Have already spent several years practicing and drawing and it's no problem. I teach beginners every day and believe me they have a very difficult time drawing. , as did I when I started. It took me at least four years before my designs started to look pleasing and look right.
The problem saying that a pencil is easier and faster is that for some it is for others no way. The other thing is that It doesn't matter what program super computer or anything else you have you still need to understand how nto draw and design the scrolls. No one that I know of disagrees with that.
Again what I don't understand id why so much resistance. Andrew when you drew the logo for FEGA did you do that all with colored pencils or paint? or did you start with a sketch and finish with the computer?
Phil, You use PS Why because it's faster. I bet that wasn't true when you first started using it. You could use images on acetate in several sizes and layer them and move them around the same as you do in PS . Why don't you probably because it's easier to do and faster and the result is better in PS.
I think that a poll to find out whether people would be more interested i n learning the computer drawing would be good. I think you need both Arnaud thinks you need both. I bet that not that many lay out lettering by hand anymore.
Why are most engravers today using power assist because it's faster to learn and the results are better. But there are those out there that that's not true for Philippe Griffne for example engraves so fast and so well that a power assist would slow him down,m but it took him 20 years to achieve that level.
Today people are starting to learn engraving at 40 ,50, even 60 years of age and don't have or want to spend the next four or five years learning to only draw by hand.
This is and will be a never ending discussion. It's the same as the chain saw vs. the Hand saw. The horse vs. the tractor. etc...
I hear people say every day I would like to learn to do that engraving but I can't draw. I say you can and must if you want to. SO again drawing is not out never will be. but combine that with technology that is available today and the results will speak for themselves and already have.
Thanks
