Making my own gravers

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Wanted to see if anyone else is using S7 tool steel for their hand made graver tips. Going to give it a try after I heat treat and temper them. I will admit, I am a tinkerer and if I can make something versus buying it, I like doing it and finding ways to do it.
 

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i am a tinkerboy as well. i've made a few gravers that functioned well. most were made of, "high carbon" steel. never heard of the s7 you mentioned. a metallurgist i aint !
 

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I have an account with mcMaster carr (man, I love that company), and I found this metal. It's air-quenched so once it's heat treated it's supposed to handle impact really well. I bought 3' of it, so it should allow me to play around and mess up a few times.......since I only need 2" per tool. I also got some HSS and some tungsten carbide.
 

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When I started engraving and nothing was available, I made mine out of plain old hardened drill rod. I still make punches out of drill rod.
 

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Please keep us posted on how they work for you. I've made gravers out of O-1 which is fine for soft metal engraving, but even annealed steel is rough on them.
 

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S7 is a shock resistant steel yes, but to do that, it won't get as hard as a proper cutting tool alloy and probably won't hold an edge very well.

I have a precision ground angle plate I made as an apprentice from S7. Someone "borrowed" it and used as an anvil.
Now it has dents on one corner. Had it been a different material, say O1 it might have chipped but not dented.
I was able to stone the burrs off and save it, but the dents still hurt.
(No one ever fessed up of course.)
 

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MJ, did you heat treat the S7 before use? It's said that properly treated S7 has a decent rating. I am playing around with different steels and alloys. I have HSS, S7, and tungsten carbide rod here.
 
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Wanted to see if anyone else is using S7 tool steel for their hand made graver tips. Going to give it a try after I heat treat and temper them. I will admit, I am a tinkerer and if I can make something versus buying it, I like doing it and finding ways to do it.
I like to find alternative methods also. Visit my Instagram page. #metalbadassery
I tried various materials like welding tungsten, allen keys, various drill bits, etc.... for making micro gravers.
I use micro gravers exclusively now instead of traditional gravers!
 

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MJ, did you heat treat the S7 before use? It's said that properly treated S7 has a decent rating. I am playing around with different steels and alloys. I have HSS, S7, and tungsten carbide rod here.
I sent it off to our mold shop heat treaters. it's maybe 57RC. Probably more like 55 though. It scratches pretty easily.
 

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S7 gets used for things like those giant teeth on earth moving shovels and bucket machines. Larger cross sections. Doesn't really have a terribly high amount of carbon at 0.5%. Looks like HRC 57 is about as high as it hardens.
 

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S7 gets used for things like those giant teeth on earth moving shovels and bucket machines. Larger cross sections. Doesn't really have a terribly high amount of carbon at 0.5%. Looks like HRC 57 is about as high as it hardens.
Yeah I should have used something like O1 or A2 but I had a chunk of the S7 given to me.
 

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Yeah I should have used something like O1 or A2 but I had a chunk of the S7 given to me.

I'd have tried it, too! :) You have me remembering that I purchased some "HSS" square stock off of Amazon and intended to try it for gravers. Doh, forgot. Thank you for reminding me. :beerchug:
 

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