Critique Request Lettering on the inside of a ring

[Arnaud Van Tilburgh]

Engraving on the inside of a ring is something I really wanted to learn.
There was my first tread on that subject with a lot good feedback, but I could not do some lettering that satisfied me. So I gave up and used a bur to do the letters on the inside of rings.

But reading Dave's tread about his class with Sam, showing his first attempt to lettering, it gave me a punch to restart practising this sort of engraving. So thanks Dave. :thumbs up:

This wedding ring I had to engrave some letters and a date. I ruined some silver rings till I thought I could give it a try for real.

This wedding ring is only 3mm wide, so the lettering is only a bit more than 1 mm.
I found out that engraving real small letters is easyer than bigger ones.
But I think I will have to practice on that as even in this ring it would have been more legible when the lettering had a bit bigger size.

I used only a wide graver, nothing special. It is no problem to reach the space to be engraved on the inside of a ring, perhaps it is with a wider ring.

I think I didn’t do a bad job so I will surely go on with this discipline. Hope you like this.

arnaud

 

[Jim Sackett]

Very nice inside ring engraving! I would probably have brought the hairline from the bottom of the J over and connected to the o. Or cut a heavy up-stroke to the right of the J to fill up the space.

Jim

 

[Arnaud Van Tilburgh]

Thank you Jim, indeed I see the missing stroke from the J to the o.

arnaud

 

[Sam]

Arnaud, you did great! Very neatly done and professional looking job. Congratulations.

 

[leschowe]

Hi Arnaud,
Great job! Great photography!
This is something that I haven't tried yet but I definitely want to learn.

What size flat graver did you use?
Is that a stamp on the left side of the lettering?
What font are you using?

Les Schowe

 

[Arnaud Van Tilburgh]

Hi Arnaud,
Great job! Great photography!
This is something that I haven't tried yet but I definitely want to learn.

What size flat graver did you use?
Is that a stamp on the left side of the lettering?
What font are you using?

Les Schowe

Thanks Sam, your compliment means a lot to me.

@ Les, I did not use a flat graver, just a square 100° that is all.
Indeed that is my mark stamp I need to ad with the alloy stamp to every jewellery I make.
I don't use a font nor a pencil, just a bottom line for the text. The font I use is probably something I have seen a lot done by others. I can draw these strokes on paper as it are just fragments of small cuts that makes the illusion of some flow.

arnaud

 

[Daniel Houwer]

Thats great engraving Arnaud!
And also on my wanting list of things to learn.
How did you hold the ring?

Greetings,

Daniel

 

[rocketpilot]

Looks really nice. i was in sam's lettering class so i can say this is not as easy as it looks.
keep up the good work
craig

 

[Arnaud Van Tilburgh]

Thats great engraving Arnaud!
And also on my wanting list of things to learn.
How did you hold the ring?

Greetings,

Daniel

Daniel, I think it is essential how you hold the ring.
So I have put it right up what gives the opportunity to be able to cut on both sides.
I also have a old leather sand bag that I have tried, that also works. It is the engravers bag that was used in the old days I suppose before the engraving machines where invented.

But putting the ring vertical in de ballvise makes it able to reach a lot of space inside the ring.
You only have to put the ring in an other turn to do the next letter.

arnaud

 

[pkasnes]

Nice lettering.

I have to start learning this, this is something I could earn some money doing.

A couple of tips for holding the ring:
http://igraver.com/forum/showthread.php?p=11639#post11639

 

[Mario Sarto]

Hello Arnaud!
I have one point i would like to give a critique - the main lines, the optical height and wight of the letters.
In fact it is a photo and perhaps i did not see it correct, but i think the letters could have been a bit closer to the lower border.
Mario

Below are three examples - please decide which looks better to your eye.

 

[Gemsetterchris]

How did you hold the ring?

On the grs tools page under workholding you`ll find a neat holder thats just the job.

 

[Arnaud Van Tilburgh]

Hello Arnaud!
I have one point i would like to give a critique - the main lines, the optical height and wight of the letters.
In fact it is a photo and perhaps i did not see it correct, but i think the letters could have been a bit closer to the lower border.
Mario

Below are three examples - please decide which looks better to your eye.

Hi Mario, I know what you mean and tried to find some of the tree that I prefer, I think it is the first one but they look quite similar to me.
I also want to notice that the non capital letters are only 1 mm, sure that is a lot under the scope but not that much to make such moves with the graver.

So if it would have been better to make the letters a bit smaller and the capitals a bit bigger, your critique could work on these.
I have seen plenty of these letterings on 3mm wedding rings, and another trick there was to engrave the letters more bending forward (other angle) so they can be bigger. I have tried that but than it is more difficult to reach all the curves needed to make a flowing letter.

I also have to try this on a wider ring, as I think that is also more difficult, say a small size ring in a wide of 8mm

Thanks for your positive critique, and sure I will try to improve this, arnaud