Leaf Script for Z letter

[JIA]

I'm trying to draw Z letter with some leaf script with no luck

can some one plz help me out with a start or at least point me to the right direction how to draw it.!!

i looked at Sam instruction and the igraver tutorial and i cant seem to get it.

thanks for the help :bow::bow:

jakob

 

[Cloudy]

looks okay to me... where do you see problems?

 

[mtgraver]

Jakob,
Looks pretty good.
After looking at it a bit I have an opinion so take it for what it's worth, I would flip the c-scroll (top left) over as in the formal flow of a script letter. The top loop of the main stem goes under the main stem but the loop at the bottom I like to take over the main stem. I think to liven up the letter a little would be to taper the scrolls into the leaf element, same idea as the thick thin in a script letter which will give you a lot more movement to the letter. I don't care for the lines inside the body of the letter myself but I think I see what you're trying to do. Maybe using a more traditional shading technique will also give more shape and movement to it. Sorry I don't have the know how to draw out or do it on your sketch to illustrate what I'm saying on this computer.
Hope I wasn't too confusing, lol.
Mark

 

[JIA]

Thank you guys for the direction, Mark i think i get what you are saying, i will try and do it tomorrow , will post a pic for the update.

Jakob

 

[monk]

keep a looseleaf "journal". save your drawings. you will see progress, but for most folks this thing doesn't happen overnight. lots of drawing practice is needed to get the "feel" for what you'e trying to do. somewhere in the tips section, maybe, i think sam displayed a complete style sheet for these letters. if you follow his lead, you'll not go wrong. the "feel" is my definition when you can literally design without thinking much about it. it just comes out of your pencil.

 

[JIA]

OK guys any comment is welcome !plz dont be shy im open for all suggestions...
:beatup::beatup::beatup:

 

[JIA]

oh man just from 5 min ago and im adding more leaf to the letter ....

im going leafy here.:clapping:

 

[Mike A]

IMO, leave off the tongues coming out of the end leaves and you got it. "less is more"
Mike

 

[grumpyphil]

This is more of a comment than a criticism. If you split the letter into 3 pieces, two horizontal and one vertical/diagonal, you notice that both the horizontal pieces are in the foreground. I wonder if you might not get more depth by changing one of the loops so that one of them is in back of the diagonal.

 

[JIA]

you are more than welcome to draw a correction lines on my drawing if you like, im putting another one now..

 

[DKanger]

I wonder if you might not get more depth by changing one of the loops so that one of them is in back of the diagonal.

I agree. If you were to "write" the Z, the top horizontal would be under the vertical and the bottom one would be over it.

 

[arcangel6]

Sorry, I'm late to this discussion but check out the following exemplar on Ornamental German Text from past Master Engrosser William E. Dennis (1860-1924). This is a page from Dennis' 1914 book Studies in Pen Art which is available in its entirety on the IAMPETH web site Rare Books page.

Regards,

Joe Vitolo

http://www.iampeth.com/books/dennis_pen_art/dennis_pen_art_page31.html

 

[mrthe]

look very great! you have try maybe draw the leafs of the corpse up and not down? maybe will be result more dinamic and more lightness thedesign is only a possibility your draw look great!

 

[unclejim1955]

I would reduce the scale of the bottom leaves to match the top and move the bottom element behind the main stem. Having it in front and the leaves larger, makes it look like an upper case L. Just my thought.

 

[Sam]

Good to see you Joe!

Some of those letters I like and some I don't. Some would be difficult to recognize while others seem quite nice and very usable.

 

[GTJC460]

The JM Bergling book has excellent examples of leaf script. It's where I always start

 

[arcangel6]

Hi Sam,

I agree with your comments. The fact is that I really find an exemplar where I like all the letter formss. One of the traditional uppercase 'Z' letters in Zanerian style Engraver's script looks akin to the number '2'........I absolutely hate it and refuse to make it in my workshops....hehe! The Rare Penmanship/Calligraphic Books available for free on the IAMPETH web site contain many forms that engraver's would love. There is no reason why the forms can't be optimized for shape and legibility.

http://www.iampeth.com/books.php

Regards,

Joe

 

[Sam]

Joe, those books are a treasure trove! Thanks for making them available. Fantastic stuff!

 

[ivar]

Jakob, I draw a few drawings of Z I hope it will help you.
regards,
Ã￾var

 

[Eric Olson]

http://www.igraver.com/leafscript.shtml