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    Default Tooling up to make belt buckles

    I want to tool up to make some belt buckles, I want to be able to make my own since there's nothing commercially available but junk. I liked the ones GRS used to carry but they're discontinued years ago. Anyway I know I'll need a press, how many tons would I need? This is going to be a small production project not requiring years of daily service from the machines but I don't want to buy cheap junk parts either. I'll also want a band saw and a grinder/ buffer. I'll probably buy the plates to attach to the belts and solder them on. I'd appreciate any advice on tools and buckle making in general, Thanks all.

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    Hello Dave!

    I have some decent buckle backs for your future production run if your interested.

    They are pressed out with a set of forming dies in a 4 stage process. I have it set up in a 5 ton blanking press and they take me a short time per piece to make and I can make as many as you'd like. These backs are the classic flap style backs that possibly go back as far as the 1970's. The bars are 1/8" wire stock (for 1.5" belts) and the flaps are 18 gauge sheet and I think they could save you a lot of time as they do for me.

    I would be more than happy to send you some if you would like. I've been hand making belt buckles for many years and it's always a balance between getting things done in an amount of time, but keeping up on high quality.

    -Michael



    I take a day or two per year to press out about 100-150 for myself to use on my own hand made belt buckles. I don't really sell them to anyone on a regular basis.
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    What kind of metal?

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    Michael, Sure I'm interested, I like what I see. I need a price, if you don't want to post it here PM me or Email me,,, abcdavegibson@hotmail.com, thanks

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    Mdengraver, I can make them out of nickel, bronze, copper or sterling.

    Dave, Sure thing! I'll email you.

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    Dave,

    Tell us more about the buckles your interested in making.

    You might not need an expensive press, or tooling for making buckles. The less complicated methods I was thinking about depends on how complex the buckles you have in mind are.

    Give us some details about the tooling you want to do. Is the tooling for blanking out the bases, or putting a dome on the buckle? What type of metal and what gauge? The tonnage of the press depends on these factors.

    As far as a band saw there's a small "proxxon" band saw in that I've really been impressed with for making buckles. It's small and perfect for buckle making. The blades are relativity cheap, and they last a while.

    -Michael
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    Michael,right now I just want to make a simple buckle for engraving, domed or arced, nickel, similar to what GRS used to sell, if you're not familiar I think they still are shown in their catalog. Band saw to cut them out I can do detailed cuts with a jeweler's saw. I don't know exactly what gauge, probably a bit thicker than GRS's. Nothing too complex just a simple buckle. I've read some buckle makers use a pipe cap, some rubber pads and a press to dome them

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    Oh, I see...

    Yes,,, One of those basic automotive 12 or 20 ton H presses would work just fine for doming your buckles. Any kind of home-made domed male and female dies would work good, made from any material. Hard wood or aluminum would work too. I've never tried a pipe cap, but it sounds like it would work great for the top male part of the set.

    I use a large wooden dapping block, leather pads and a rubber dead-blow hammer to dome buckles. I've never needed a press.

    More tips for making nickel buckles.

    I would go with 1/8" thick leather pads rather than rubber pads.

    Use dead soft nickel or anneal it before doming. I've had nickel take a half dome, and just spring back up on me.

    Get a 4" medium grit cratex wheel for your polisher. When you band saw out your buckle shape, the sides are very rough and takes forever to polish out. Use the cratex on the sides of the buckle blanks, then when you go to the polisher it's not such a terrible chore to polish the sides.

    Use some aggressive polishing compound on a tight weave yellow-treated buffing wheel for the first round of polishing. Like bobbing, tripoli or similar.

    For the second round of polishing use a normal white muslin buffing wheel with a med or fine polishing compound to shine them up, if you want them shiny.

    Most importantly, use all that buffing crap safely. Breathing mask and filtration...etc.

    I hope this has been helpful!

    -Michael
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    Yep, the polishing lathe is the most dangerous machine in the shop. Unless you are spitting parts out of your engine lathe or milling machine vise...


    Brian

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    Michael, Brian or anyone, do you think a 6 ton press would be enough? I have a limited budget and work space. HF has a benchtop 6 ton at a nice price.

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