Help, please: In need of a good source of examples of engraving
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Jim,There are some wonderful books on engraved English rifles I've seen them at gun shows if you google engraved English rifles I think that your best bet. J.J.P.S. I just gooled English rifles and found 42 books.
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Thanks JJ
I was hoping to find something that was directly related to the Rigby engraving. I found a good book on Brithish engraving in general which looks like a good book to have but again I am looking for something that is Rigby related. We have books on Winchester and Colts so I was hoping to find a similar book on Rigby guns. I am searching the net, I was just hoping that someone here could relay a good source.
I was hoping to find something that was directly related to the Rigby engraving. I found a good book on Brithish engraving in general which looks like a good book to have but again I am looking for something that is Rigby related. We have books on Winchester and Colts so I was hoping to find a similar book on Rigby guns. I am searching the net, I was just hoping that someone here could relay a good source.
rmgreen
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Bama,
If I understand what you are looking for probably does not exist in a book form that depicts just identified as Rigby engraving. Just about every style/form of engraving exist on Rigby firearms. I do not believe there is any form or style that is always recognizable as "Rigby". Over the years Rigby has existed many "In House" as well as contract engraver have engraved for Rigby and in as many styles and forms. Probably more fine and large English Scroll has been done than any other style.
If I understand what you are looking for probably does not exist in a book form that depicts just identified as Rigby engraving. Just about every style/form of engraving exist on Rigby firearms. I do not believe there is any form or style that is always recognizable as "Rigby". Over the years Rigby has existed many "In House" as well as contract engraver have engraved for Rigby and in as many styles and forms. Probably more fine and large English Scroll has been done than any other style.
Roger Bleile
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Jim,
Can you be more specific? Bolt action rifles, percussion, double rifles? What vintage?
Can you be more specific? Bolt action rifles, percussion, double rifles? What vintage?
Tim Wells
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A good place to look are auction sites and high end gun dealers that handle those guns. They usually take really good close up photos of the ones currently in their catalogs.
When I said auction sites, what I meant was something like Rock Island, or James D Julia, not gun broker.
When I said auction sites, what I meant was something like Rock Island, or James D Julia, not gun broker.
Rodger, I have a client that has some percussion Rigby target rifles that he has rebreeched. I have the old breeches that are engraved to go by so that is not the problem. l was just hoping to have a source for reference to add to my library. :biggrin:
Roger Bleile
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Jim I have both of those books and they are excellent references, however they are heavy on double barreled shotguns. I know you mainly work in the muzzle loading realm and there is not a lot of that in those books.
As far as images for reference, Tim's comment is spot on. Julia's and Rock Island Auctions have the best images of all the auction houses and their premier gun auctions are full of high end guns.
Below is an example of a breech-loading Rigby that may have similar engraving to the muzzle loading era.
As far as images for reference, Tim's comment is spot on. Julia's and Rock Island Auctions have the best images of all the auction houses and their premier gun auctions are full of high end guns.
Below is an example of a breech-loading Rigby that may have similar engraving to the muzzle loading era.
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Roger Bleile
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I just realized that the above images aren't much good as they are seriously reduced on this forum. Here is a link to another Rigby that was in the most recent Julia auction.
http://jamesdjulia.com/item/2340-391/
http://jamesdjulia.com/item/2340-391/
Thanks Rodger
You are correct in that my interest in engraving started with my love of the Kentucky Long Rifle and wanted to learn to engrave so that I could engrave the rifles that I built. But as I travel along on my engraving path I have found that I love to engrave and that I want to progress into the modern side. While this job is still in the percussion erea it is a little above Kentucky engraving. I have been studying and practicing Marcus Hunt's material which I think will help me in this project.
Again thanks for you help and input.
Jim
You are correct in that my interest in engraving started with my love of the Kentucky Long Rifle and wanted to learn to engrave so that I could engrave the rifles that I built. But as I travel along on my engraving path I have found that I love to engrave and that I want to progress into the modern side. While this job is still in the percussion erea it is a little above Kentucky engraving. I have been studying and practicing Marcus Hunt's material which I think will help me in this project.
Again thanks for you help and input.
Jim
Jim,
I don't know if this book will help. It appears to be dedicated to the company and it's history. if you are lucky, someone on the forum may have a copy and can provide more information.
http://www.amazon.com/Rigby-Grand-Tradition-Silvio-Calabi/dp/1933608919
Best regards,
I don't know if this book will help. It appears to be dedicated to the company and it's history. if you are lucky, someone on the forum may have a copy and can provide more information.
http://www.amazon.com/Rigby-Grand-Tradition-Silvio-Calabi/dp/1933608919
Best regards,
silverchip
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Just search Phil Coggan, That is all you need, well there might be few others,but it is a great start!!!!!!!!! John Schippers for BP guns.
Mike Fennell
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Roger Bleile's http://www.engravingglossary.com/ contains good illustrations of various engraving styles. I also agree with Roger's suggestion of James D. Julia's site for its very high-quality images.
By the way, I am curious. Roger's name is spelled correctly at the top of each of his comments. I wonder why you take poetic license with it?
By the way, I am curious. Roger's name is spelled correctly at the top of each of his comments. I wonder why you take poetic license with it?
Marrinan
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J.J., James D. Julia's current and past catalogs are for sale both current and most of the past sales. they are a wonderful photo source. I have bought a couple of them that have guns of particular interest to me. great description and histories of many models. Particularly rare models. Fred
Chujybear
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It's a fine tradition of renaming things. Zhonghau, Deutschland, Netherlands, Nippon springs to mind.
Mike Fennell
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"Chujybear: It's a fine tradition of renaming things. Zhonghau, Deutschland, Netherlands, Nippon springs to mind. "
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I agree. There is no logic to the spelling of names. Mine often becomes a spice.
MIke
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I agree. There is no logic to the spelling of names. Mine often becomes a spice.
MIke
Marrinan
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Mike, I thought they named them funny waffles after your family. Fred
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