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    Does anyone know what kind of vise Lynton McKenzie used, as in the videos? It seems a much more stable vise than a ball vise.

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    Hi,
    I don't think he ever mention the brand name of vice and I don't remember ever seeing a name.
    He did have it machined quite a bit to do what he wanted it to. I think he had the dove tale
    added on for centering under the scope. I think Sam would know for sure about most
    how it was built.
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    Lynton used a gunsmith vise from the Mittermeyer (sp?) company. It's a vise with about 4" jaws and mounted on a sturdy ball joint. He added two dovetailed slides so his work would stay centered under the microscope. The ball joint, vise, and slide were attached to a stainless steel shaft which turned on a single bearing mounted in the floor. It's a very sturdy arrangement for stand-up hammer & chisel engraving. Before he died he gave me a set of plans for making a vise mounted on a turntable. I believe he was experiementing with this and offered to build me one, but he passed away. I still have the plans though.

    When I was at New Orleans Arms Co. I built a McKenzie style vise for my studio at home. I got the gunsmith vise from Stanley Diefenthal (the owner). Stanley got the vise from Lynton, and years later I was to find out that Winston had given the vise to McKenzie. I've only seen one other one, and it was being used by a knifemaker in Arkansas. My vise is in storage at this time as I no longer stand and engrave with hammer & chisel. I find ball vises fast and efficient.

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    was that the vise you offered me for sale back in the day?

    Darn, I wished I'd bought it for the historical connections even though then and now, I thought the ball vise on disc was a better approach for use under a scope.
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    Just a suggestion, but how about putting the plans on the tips board. Unless your going into the
    vice business. Just a suggestion.
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    why I ask? It just confuses people.
    it's not a good solution, and its certianly not a cheap solution. a ball vise can be made out of bowling ball if you are looking for cheap and (relatively) effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pilkguns View Post
    was that the vise you offered me for sale back in the day?

    Darn, I wished I'd bought it for the historical connections even though then and now, I thought the ball vise on disc was a better approach for use under a scope.
    Scott: No, it was a copy of the one I used at New Orleans Arms which was built by a friend of mine. I foget the name of the engraver who bought it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimzim75 View Post
    Just a suggestion, but how about putting the plans on the tips board. Unless your going into the
    vice business. Just a suggestion.
    Jim: I'll dig out the plans and check them out. I think Lynton had them drawn by someone, and I'm not sure if they're copyrighted or not. / Sam

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    Sam,
    I think that's really a good thing. Thank you. I would think Lynton would smile also.

    Jim
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