design critique

Dani Girl · Oct 6, 2014

I have bought this ti and Damascus folder which I plan to engrave and hope to sell. Does anyone like this design, can you pick it apart for improvements, other ways to do it... Any and all input greatly appreciated.

Neo Dutch · Oct 6, 2014

I like how you've made the main scroll rise out of the border. I would rather see the left hand scrolls flow down instead of up.

Dani Girl · Oct 6, 2014

Yeah, dad wanted the scrolls to go down on the right. Does anyone think both going up works on this.

don hicks · Oct 6, 2014

I have never seen a real dragon, but they tell me the ones we have in Nova Scotia have smaller front legs than back legs. To me it looks too horse like with the leg proportions as they are. Drop his back down and work in a serrated tail to eliminate any confusion about what it is. I really like your design concept though. Keep them coming and look forward to seeing it finished.
Cheers
Don

KCSteve · Oct 6, 2014

I can see the left hand scrolls coming down from the top to echo the way the wings come down. I also think the dragon is a bit 'horsy' in the initial sketch.

Thierry Duguet · Oct 6, 2014

I think that this drawing is not very useful. Should you want to draw what you will then engrave your drawing need to be more precise, if because of the scale a precise drawing is impossible just blow it up you can always reduce it later. If your drawing is just to give you an idea as to where you are going there is no point to do it on paper, draw directly on the object you are going to engrave.
In an other matter you should get a feeling about the lines of the object itself, contradicting those line is not always a good idea, the purpose of engraving is to enhance the support, to complement it, it is best done by emphasizing the existing curves, it will give more an impression of movement to the final result, you do not impose a preconceive idea to the object you adapt your idea to the object so the object and the engraving will complement each other.

Dani Girl · Oct 7, 2014

It's concept art, only needs to be good enough for experienced engravers to point out that the overall design is dumb in the first place. scrolls heading in the wrong direction, horse/dragons in the middle...

Maybe I should take the advice of just scrolling the hell out of it. I just kinda wanted to do something different because it's dark with the damascus blade, and i can colour the ti now... thought it would be fun. Just can't come up with a design. No rush though. ... maybe in ten years i'll come up with something good.

Silberschweif · Oct 7, 2014

Dani I like your work. I think the Dragoncave is a good idea but sometimes itÂ´s better to see a little bit less than more. The Knife is a smal piece and I think itÂ´s better to let look the dragon out of its cave. You can give the head more details. If you want to draw Dragons I have a book from Jessica Pfeffer thats very nice ItÂ´s a how to ...
here is the amazon link for the english version
http://www.amazon.de/DragonArt-Fant...80436&sr=1-3-catcorr&keywords=J+Peffer+dragon

Marrinan · Oct 7, 2014

Dan Girl, I like your concept. Always time for refinement after preliminary drawings. There are some excellent book including Drawing dinosaurs for dummies. My books a million has about twelve or more nice books. I would work the ends as well. Fred

Andrew Biggs · Oct 7, 2014

In an other matter you should get a feeling about the lines of the object itself, contradicting those line is not always a good idea, the purpose of engraving is to enhance the support, to complement it, it is best done by emphasizing the existing curves, it will give more an impression of movement to the final result, you do not impose a preconceive idea to the object you adapt your idea to the object so the object and the engraving will complement each other.

Very good advise from Thierry.....your idea doesn't fit with the contours or the shape of the knife.

Cheers
Andrew

Beathard · Oct 7, 2014

I too think it would look better as a bust instead of a full body. It would allow a lot more detail. Leave something to the imagination behind the scrolls and give a lot of detail in the head and upper wings. I personally like the scrolls going in a circular direction - one side up & the othe side down. Might want to give them a little more of a flame look since its a dragon theme.

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