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Doc Mark
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"It would take years of just cutting the basics before they were allowed to move on to more detail and design. If I did not have bills to pay I would like to go back to that method and study the Hand engraving art in a more relaxed environment"
Bill,
I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but what you wrote intrigued me. Why would you want to return to several years of being a true Novice with it's soul crushing repetition to master something that you can learn comfortably in a far shorter period? I'm not saying anything against push or H/C, just the concept of Novice to Apprentice to Master. I understand the fascination of replicating the techniques of old but would you really want to spend years in practicing parallel lines and simple curves without the ability to produce something artistic? I guess I'm too old to not value my remaining years of hopeful creativity.
Bill,
I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but what you wrote intrigued me. Why would you want to return to several years of being a true Novice with it's soul crushing repetition to master something that you can learn comfortably in a far shorter period? I'm not saying anything against push or H/C, just the concept of Novice to Apprentice to Master. I understand the fascination of replicating the techniques of old but would you really want to spend years in practicing parallel lines and simple curves without the ability to produce something artistic? I guess I'm too old to not value my remaining years of hopeful creativity.
celticjohn
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I'm going to ask a silly question. Are these guns bought off the shelf "retail store" and then sent for engraving or does a customer go to a gun maker "Purdy" etc and request to have it engraved. The gun maker sends it to the engraver. it is then hardened and assembled by the gun maker and given to their customer.
This kind of engraving I'll love to aspire to but since there's no gun makers in Ireland would there really be any point it taking the time to concentrate on this sort of engraving.
Another silly question do gun makers sell spare parts, ie side plates etc for practicing on. just a later thought
This kind of engraving I'll love to aspire to but since there's no gun makers in Ireland would there really be any point it taking the time to concentrate on this sort of engraving.
Another silly question do gun makers sell spare parts, ie side plates etc for practicing on. just a later thought
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Marrinan
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Fabulous layouts and the execution is at the top of the trade. A magnificent job. Thanks for sharing your work with us. You are very fast at this too. Fred
Phil Coggan
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The guns are bought, then either the customer askes the makers to get them engraved or asks the makers to arrange for a specific engraver to engrave them, or he goes straight to the engraver which was the case with these eight.
Gunmakers don't usually supply side plates to practice on.
Phil
celticjohn
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Cheers Phil,
So you're engraving the finished product, no hardening afterwards
I just hear the American engravers go on previously about case hardening guns after engraving etc, sure that has to be an art in itself.
Marrinan
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Celtic John, Doesn't Ireland treat artist as very special citizens? No taxes for art work, No import of export duties etc? Fred
Phil Coggan
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No, the guns come to me after they are made and in the white, when I finish the engraving they go back for hardening.
Phil
celticjohn
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Yeah, that's what I thought Phil. That kinds limits me on this side of the water.
I'll have to look into it further.
I'll have to look into it further.
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